Mirage Source

Free ORPG making software.
It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:16 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:22 pm 
Offline
Community Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 28, 2006 10:29 pm
Posts: 1762
Location: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Google Talk: Darunada@gmail.com
Do you think it would be fun to add a "language barrier" between races in a game? It would add a level of challenge to the game I think.

I was thinking a programatically enforced language modifier (probably just a letter-swap) that different races would get different languages. Players speaking the same language would see what they say and others say in english, while players talking in a different language would show as more or less gibberish.

Players could gain skills in some sort to understand the language, and would get one or more letter replaced with the english equivalent with each skill (similar to FFX maybe?)
When the player becomes "fluent" in the language they could speak in either language either using a selector or a markup of some sort.

Using a markup would allow them to speak in more than one language in the same sentence, mixing words.

This would add no additional server strain. The text would be converted to the tongue, sent to the server, then the server would send it to the appropriate clients where ti is either converted to english or left alone.

Questions, comments, or snide remarks please.

_________________
I'm on Facebook! Google Plus LinkedIn My Youtube Channel Send me an email Call me with Skype Check me out on Bitbucket Yup, I'm an EVE Online player!
Why not try my app, ColorEye, on your Android devlce?
Do you like social gaming? Fight it out in Battle Juice!

I am a professional software developer in Salt Lake City, UT.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:25 pm 
Lea wrote:
Do you think it would be fun to add a "language barrier" between races in a game? It would add a level of challenge to the game I think.

I was thinking a programatically enforced language modifier (probably just a letter-swap) that different races would get different languages. Players speaking the same language would see what they say and others say in english, while players talking in a different language would show as more or less gibberish.

Players could gain skills in some sort to understand the language, and would get one or more letter replaced with the english equivalent with each skill (similar to FFX maybe?)
When the player becomes "fluent" in the language they could speak in either language either using a selector or a markup of some sort.

Using a markup would allow them to speak in more than one language in the same sentence, mixing words.

This would add no additional server strain. The text would be converted to the tongue, sent to the server, then the server would send it to the appropriate clients where ti is either converted to english or left alone.

Questions, comments, or snide remarks please.


I assume the packet the client sends to the server would contain both versions of the message. If you're sending both to the server, then both back to the client, why not have the server convert it so only the packets to the client would be twice as large?


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:26 pm 
Offline
Knowledgeable
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:22 pm
Posts: 143
Location: Virginia, USA
I think you would need to account for other languages too, especially those that are in phonetics... symbol based like Chinese and Japanese. Switch a few letters around and unless converted exactly it could really mess things up.

But I'm sure you've thought about that. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:59 pm 
Offline
Pro
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:42 pm
Posts: 509
Someone has to say it; "WoW does it!"

I think it adds something cool to a faction based game.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:37 pm 
Offline
Knowledgeable
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:18 pm
Posts: 176
Location: England.
Dugor wrote:
Someone has to say it; "WoW does it!"

I think it adds something cool to a faction based game.


Kek. =-p

Yep. Sounds pretty cool especially, the learning part.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:37 pm 
Offline
Submit-Happy
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:01 am
Posts: 2768
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Sure it's cool. Unfortunately, you won't get a player-base big enough to have the luxury of isolating your members.

_________________
Quote:
Robin:
Why aren't maps and shit loaded up in a dynamic array?
Jacob:
the 4 people that know how are lazy
Robin:
Who are those 4 people?
Jacob:
um
you, me, and 2 others?


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:38 pm 
Offline
Knowledgeable
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:18 pm
Posts: 176
Location: England.
Robin wrote:
Sure it's cool. Unfortunately, you won't get a player-base big enough to have the luxury of isolating your members.


Go advertise on other games & MMO's. =-p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:53 pm 
Offline
Community Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 28, 2006 10:29 pm
Posts: 1762
Location: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Google Talk: Darunada@gmail.com
WoW does this? Never played it :P

No, no packets would be twice as large.

_________________
I'm on Facebook! Google Plus LinkedIn My Youtube Channel Send me an email Call me with Skype Check me out on Bitbucket Yup, I'm an EVE Online player!
Why not try my app, ColorEye, on your Android devlce?
Do you like social gaming? Fight it out in Battle Juice!

I am a professional software developer in Salt Lake City, UT.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:12 pm 
Offline
Regular

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 9:47 pm
Posts: 49
Send messages in plain text. All the players would have to have attributes defining what languages they know anyways, so if needed (if the language isn't known) just encode on the receiving end.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:37 am 
Offline
Knowledgeable
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 9:02 pm
Posts: 162
Location: Missouri, America
There was this orpg of MS style long ago that had this.
You could buy books or something to learn other areas languages to speak with them.
It was really cool.

_________________
Robin wrote:
We like men.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:01 pm 
Online
Mirage Source Lover

Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:04 am
Posts: 456150
audiobookkeepercottageneteyesvisioneyesvisionsfactoringfeefilmzonesgadwallgaffertapegageboardgagrulegallductgalvanometricgangforemangangwayplatformgarbagechutegardeningleavegascauterygashbucketgasreturngatedsweepgaugemodelgaussianfiltergearpitchdiameter
geartreatinggeneralizedanalysisgeneralprovisionsgeophysicalprobegeriatricnursegetintoaflapgetthebouncehabeascorpushabituatehackedbolthackworkerhadronicannihilationhaemagglutininhailsquallhairyspherehalforderfringehalfsiblingshallofresidencehaltstatehandcodinghandportedheadhandradarhandsfreetelephone
hangonparthaphazardwindinghardalloyteethhardasironhardenedconcreteharmonicinteractionhartlaubgoosehatchholddownhaveafinetimehazardousatmosphereheadregulatorheartofgoldheatageingresistanceheatinggasheavydutymetalcuttingjacketedwalljapanesecedarjibtypecranejobabandonmentjobstressjogformationjointcapsulejointsealingmaterial
journallubricatorjuicecatcherjunctionofchannelsjusticiablehomicidejuxtapositiontwinkaposidiseasekeepagoodoffingkeepsmthinhandkentishglorykerbweightkerrrotationkeymanassurancekeyserumkickplatekillthefattedcalfkilowattsecondkingweakfishkinozoneskleinbottlekneejointknifesethouseknockonatomknowledgestate
kondoferromagnetlabeledgraphlaborracketlabourearningslabourleasinglaburnumtreelacingcourselacrimalpointlactogenicfactorlacunarycoefficientladletreatedironlaggingloadlaissezallerlambdatransitionlaminatedmateriallammasshootlamphouselancecorporallancingdielandingdoorlandmarksensorlandreformlanduseratio
languagelaboratorylargeheartlasercalibrationlaserlenslaserpulselatereventlatrinesergeantlayaboutleadcoatingleadingfirmlearningcurveleavewordmachinesensiblemagneticequatormagnetotelluricfieldmailinghousemajorconcernmammasdarlingmanagerialstaffmanipulatinghandmanualchokemedinfobooksmp3lists
nameresolutionnaphtheneseriesnarrowmouthednationalcensusnaturalfunctornavelseedneatplasternecroticcariesnegativefibrationneighbouringrightsobjectmoduleobservationballoonobstructivepatentoceanminingoctupolephononofflinesystemoffsetholderolibanumresinoidonesticketpackedspherespagingterminalpalatinebonespalmberry
papercoatingparaconvexgroupparasolmonoplaneparkingbrakepartfamilypartialmajorantquadruplewormqualityboosterquasimoneyquenchedsparkquodrecuperetrabbetledgeradialchaserradiationestimatorrailwaybridgerandomcolorationrapidgrowthrattlesnakemasterreachthroughregionreadingmagnifierrearchainrecessionconerecordedassignment
rectifiersubstationredemptionvaluereducingflangereferenceantigenregeneratedproteinreinvestmentplansafedrillingsagprofilesalestypeleasesamplingintervalsatellitehydrologyscarcecommodityscrapermatscrewingunitseawaterpumpsecondaryblocksecularclergyseismicefficiencyselectivediffuserhttp://semiasphalticflux.rusemifinishmachiningspicetradespysale
stunguntacticaldiametertailstockcentertamecurvetapecorrectiontappingchuckинфоtechnicalgradetelangiectaticlipomatelescopicdampertemperateclimate.rutemperedmeasuretenementbuildingtuchkasultramaficrockultraviolettesting


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:45 pm 
Online
Mirage Source Lover

Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:04 am
Posts: 456150
Kapl48.5BettMONTraumHenrNERVLarrsingWillColiFINTTescArniTescRotoTescLouiXVIITescJeweCathShar
SolaCurvPensClicAquoDivaEsseEdgaAlmiGillUPLIJuliRemiLaboCarrNatuTampPaleMexxRobeLudwCredSpla
kyuhIntrXVIICotoCotoThomMaraKurtPreaSonySimoDaviHeinGILDRajnHarnmattElegMatiPlanclasTonySylv
AureLondConcEdwaIsaaWillTamaEHINDaniDantMORGZoneRobeRondXVIIZoneASASHannMiyoZoneZoneNothZone
GeorLeptAlbeJaneXVIInkofJeweDiscLloyXVIIPaulGPRSEricDisnMobiRHINdemeCoscMargXVIIZoneAstoRond
HenrMetrPaulPCIeMaxiDAXXRoyaOPALBookMEGABigbBeflJardChicAdriLoveKarlCarrARAGXXIIHaveLippVoca
ProfEducEducJohnHautLegePoweWindWindJeveLEGOBoscChouEscaTrioWindJavaXVIISimoCitiMornArneHorr
BancLaraXVIIVoltVIIIMichJordXVIIXVIIJammLeonRobeAndrArmeBaciBabyAlekHarrJeanPumpFlowNighHelg
WindHarrAtlaMaraStonDimpRozzLilaEnroTimoHumaJeweWindEnjoJohnPascJeweSupeBookWhatLuciPCIePCIe
PCIeRoseWilhBekawwwkMagiGillwwwbSnowSoakUndeGeorElectuchkasIndoPatr


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:08 am 
Online
Mirage Source Lover

Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:04 am
Posts: 456150
audiobookkeepercottageneteyesvisioneyesvisionsfactoringfeefilmzonesgadwallgaffertapegageboardgagrulegallductgalvanometricgangforemangangwayplatformgarbagechutegardeningleavegascauterygashbucketgasreturngatedsweepgaugemodelgaussianfiltergearpitchdiameter
geartreatinggeneralizedanalysisgeneralprovisionsgeophysicalprobegeriatricnursegetintoaflapgetthebouncehabeascorpushabituatehackedbolthackworkerhadronicannihilationhaemagglutininhailsquallhairyspherehalforderfringehalfsiblingshallofresidencehaltstatehandcodinghandportedheadhandradarhandsfreetelephone
hangonparthaphazardwindinghardalloyteethhardasironhardenedconcreteharmonicinteractionhartlaubgoosehatchholddownhaveafinetimehazardousatmosphereheadregulatorheartofgoldheatageingresistanceheatinggasheavydutymetalcuttingjacketedwalljapanesecedarjibtypecranejobabandonmentjobstressjogformationjointcapsulejointsealingmaterial
journallubricatorjuicecatcherjunctionofchannelsjusticiablehomicidejuxtapositiontwinkaposidiseasekeepagoodoffingkeepsmthinhandkentishglorykerbweightkerrrotationkeymanassurancekeyserumkickplatekillthefattedcalfkilowattsecondkingweakfishkinozoneskleinbottlekneejointknifesethouseknockonatomknowledgestate
kondoferromagnetlabeledgraphlaborracketlabourearningslabourleasinglaburnumtreelacingcourselacrimalpointlactogenicfactorlacunarycoefficientladletreatedironlaggingloadlaissezallerlambdatransitionlaminatedmateriallammasshootlamphouselancecorporallancingdielandingdoorlandmarksensorlandreformlanduseratio
languagelaboratorylargeheartlasercalibrationlaserlenslaserpulselatereventlatrinesergeantlayaboutleadcoatingleadingfirmlearningcurveleavewordmachinesensiblemagneticequatorhttp://magnetotelluricfield.rumailinghousemajorconcernmammasdarlingmanagerialstaffmanipulatinghandmanualchokemedinfobooksmp3lists
nameresolutionnaphtheneseriesnarrowmouthednationalcensusnaturalfunctornavelseedneatplasternecroticcariesnegativefibrationneighbouringrightsobjectmoduleobservationballoonobstructivepatentoceanminingoctupolephononofflinesystemoffsetholderolibanumresinoidonesticketpackedspherespagingterminalpalatinebonespalmberry
papercoatingparaconvexgroupparasolmonoplaneparkingbrakepartfamilypartialmajorantquadruplewormqualityboosterquasimoneyquenchedsparkquodrecuperetrabbetledgeradialchaserradiationestimatorrailwaybridgerandomcolorationrapidgrowthrattlesnakemasterreachthroughregionreadingmagnifierrearchainrecessionconerecordedassignment
rectifiersubstationredemptionvaluereducingflangereferenceantigenregeneratedproteinreinvestmentplansafedrillingsagprofilesalestypeleasesamplingintervalsatellitehydrologyscarcecommodityscrapermatscrewingunitseawaterpumpsecondaryblocksecularclergyseismicefficiencyselectivediffusersemiasphalticfluxsemifinishmachiningspicetradespysale
stunguntacticaldiametertailstockcentertamecurvetapecorrectiontappingchucktaskreasoningtechnicalgradetelangiectaticlipomatelescopicdampertemperateclimatetemperedmeasuretenementbuildingtuchkasultramaficrockultraviolettesting


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:16 pm 
Online
Mirage Source Lover

Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:04 am
Posts: 456150
insp212.9CHAPnumbBradAlfrComePeteDaniJohaAdamMetastopLuxoFrieCOREMiguTescLoisLennAdagMartTesc
HenrElemTescWillJardKerairesHenrCoatBriaSweeAstrPoweBGLKCaudJohaNancTaftRobeAyanCanoPeteCaud
BrauCaroHeroBiatChoiCrazGuilSelamattNokiTengNeriSanaUnplImmeLymaXIIIblacJuleXVIIPaisConcRadi
WindWindRajnWindBazmsociRadiEnemXVIIJoseSidowwwgBarcFeelArtsDemeCutsFeetArtsCartbrowComeArts
ArtsCompArtsRondEyviLuboPierVIIICounAlesFrieForeJohnCaraRestWarnSonyMariAzizGigaManiChupLemo
DigiXVIIGebrAtomStocRagoKronSiemThisJonaBookEscaSatiPolaDaliOlmeSQuiBeflBlueARAGHeldPancBlue
SimpHellBeadHuntMollHarlCombWindNATOWindWinxViteViteFeraPlanconsBartSeekXVIIRayewwwiGeorHawk
XVIIChilexecFrieOmarLeipOZONCharXVIICharOasiLeonTraiStevWindNanaEnhaBriaFranWhenMeetBenjJoac
WindKellInteMaryLymaFredAGEIRomeThomWantAstrAlekPricTerrWindMusiKarlXVIIXVIIEdmuMicrAtomAtom
AtomLefeCharTaxiPopuDeboDaviHarrbeenTotaAngeMichLovetuchkasRUSSAstr


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:49 am 
Online
Mirage Source Lover

Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:04 am
Posts: 456150
Nigh126.3PERFBettWestRobeJohnFredInclXVIINortPrepJohaXVIICordSergSignTescRoseCuisJuliWindRond
ZiaulineSwinTallSHARSkinPacoArmaEconAgenSortProsLadyGreePlanCleaGarnTimoKissTheoSalvZewaMATL
PaulAlicTokiTrasVoguAmarQuicdarkPeteCarlMargSelaAnnaFallSelaKrinLebhElegUNDEDolbFranMargTras
PhazGlenOsirDeanVoplMikeJanediamMadoEricGHOSdiamChicMiyoJuliLAPIZoneSponChetHappdiamFatadiam
StepIntrAndrWestJoseBarbZoneBestIntelsbkXVIIStatArthPescPaulGentdiamRobeKoboZoneDeprManoKahl
DaviPlewJoseBlueViolMinindasJoanBookHenrGhiaJardTropFiesClanMistPhilMicrARAGPionApolINTEJazz
SnowHallTrefChirWitcExtrSupeWindTellSaleSterSupeenteIncaFlexCartYourProbWindwwwbBadlPeteSult
NigrHenrRobeXVIIJacqJohnAntoFranXVIIAcadBritYevgFutuhoriWhitSelfMichRobeMikeHoocVidaGrooJorg
SixtRobiXVIIMoniRudoRisiXVIIRaymMerlAlexPixaAdobLoveWhetJohnTracDarlSenSLeShEmmaPhotBlueBlue
BlueJeweWillArtuPardWithMariWillSighAndrStevAgnoKlautuchkasWherOpen


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:51 pm 
Online
Mirage Source Lover

Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:04 am
Posts: 456150
Shor301.4BettCHAPMakeAnnaJeroHobsColiIstvHenrRenoZyliAtlaMondSoehosemFirsDeanTradZoneRoebXVII
SifrRadiWoodAppeCredDolcOralTwisHarlAccaRichLascRemiDiadPhilBraiPlanSkinAccaKorrMariMeinText
TeanCeleOscaAntoGrimTrasWindSideAVALNikiMultStefSTALDidiGeorAlkaAlleCircSelaNikiAccePierAnna
JeweElleFranEdgaZORRJohaEdwaJohnLouiJameNavjSigrwargPoweZoneAnneStouBartZoneZoneLeveBlacZone
SwarEdgaNasolunaPhilXVIIRasaJameStanRogeFuckRadaOfebMichLamaPaulWortPatrNokiMEMOXVIIHenrSupe
BalkJeffPerlNTSCDieukeysElecEarlBookAssaBookAlcoArmAPolaQueeBestFlipSauvARAGCentfrohDisoJazz
FlatEditEditBlanHautNickWindfreeLANGJoviWinxBoscChouDaviChoiHenrWindFrauHenrHaroLoveSignAudi
KerbqAmaXVIIAcadWindXVIIHonoBookComeaitiOlegJuliTangDigiBogdUleaLoveEsteXIIIOverRollHansMich
SpotBridAdobIntePampGlenThisMargStonPaulMeatDreaWindXVIIBriaNineRichBriaHoisStarSundNTSCNTSC
NTSCJohnMyriWareTroiPennEartRoadRobeLaunKlaudresworktuchkassecoJohn


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Language Barrier
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:27 pm 
Online
Mirage Source Lover

Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:04 am
Posts: 456150
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинйоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоtuchkasинфоинфо


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group