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Author:  Doomy [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:26 pm ]
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there also hasn't been really any updates on the engine as well. If you want new members, the easy ways are to convert the engine. EVERYONE wants a engine in a differnt language. Make it a dx8 engine. Everyone likes dx8.

well thats all i can think of right now
Author:  Doomy [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:40 pm ]
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Why not try it out and see, I think dx8 is better, and we had apoll a few months ago on weither or not to convert it to dx8 and the yes's won like big time.
Author:  Matt [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:34 pm ]
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I personally don't see a point in converting to DX8. I don't like it and it's over kill for a 2D game..
Author:  Broojo02 [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:59 pm ]
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DX10 is overkill for a 2D game, I think having alpha blending and other cool features is a great step forward for 2D games, everyone likes translucent GUIs and particle effects.
Author:  Doomy [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:00 am ]
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Broojo02 wrote:
DX10 is overkill for a 2D game, I think having alpha blending and other cool features is a great step forward for 2D games, everyone likes translucent GUIs and particle effects.

exactly
i would also put in dynamic sprite sizes those are the only ones i can think of that can be fore a base engine.
Author:  Matt [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:19 am ]
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Broojo02 wrote:
DX10 is overkill for a 2D game, I think having alpha blending and other cool features is a great step forward for 2D games, everyone likes translucent GUIs and particle effects.


You should never, and I mean NEVER speak for everyone's opinion like that. I personally hate translucent guis and particle effects in 2D games.

DX7 is why I still use Mirage. I won't personally need to use MS4 again as I have a much better base MS4 to work with for each project, but it's still not a good idea to make MS4 use DX8 by default. The best bet, would be to include BOTH versions and allow people to use the one they want. That way, there doesn't need to be more than one version of MS4 to update each time.
Author:  genusis [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:31 am ]
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I currently agree with Matt. DX8 is not needed. To tell you the truth DX8 is hard as hell to use, but if you want to try, here have at it http://rookscape.com/vbgaming/tutBN.php.


* Translucent GUIs Suck and Particles are not bad though.
Author:  James [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:12 am ]
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Let MS die. It's been on life support for ages.
Author:  genusis [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:33 am ]
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he probably gave Jacob something ;)
Author:  Matt [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:49 pm ]
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Nean is head ambassador, first off. Second off, when given ambassador he was helping the community quite a bit. He still is, but he's right. MS needs to die, but more so the community than the source.

Playing the game like that would annoy the crap out of me, DFA. No offense, it just doesn't look good.

I still vote if you're gonna go DX8, do it the smart way and use different mods for each and include both and make it pretty easy to change between the two.
Author:  Matt [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:24 pm ]
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DFA wrote:
if the community dies off, nobody will use the source either


Yes they will. There are other sites that will let MS live on. Online Game Core and Asphodel Games.
Author:  Matt [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:30 pm ]
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DFA wrote:
i doubt those sites get serious traffic


OGC does. There's typically more people posting there than here. A lot of the old members from here frequent OGC and there's a lot of new people that we don't have here that help out. A lot more pixel artists and stuff like that.
Author:  genusis [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:39 pm ]
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That's because they are not as rude, stuck in there own ways, and Bashing new members like everyone does here.
I knwo I've been there a few times they are really NICE and HELPFUL there.
Author:  Robin [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:45 pm ]
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MS is dead, lolol.
Author:  Matt [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:52 pm ]
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genusis wrote:
That's because they are not as rude, stuck in there own ways, and Bashing new members like everyone does here.
I knwo I've been there a few times they are really NICE and HELPFUL there.


Mirage Source is dedicated to Mirage Source. The only people accepted here are those that are TRULY here to LEARN with the source. Those that want to have everything handed to them on a silver platter get run off pretty quickly. Those that don't come here to do anything with the source, get run off very quickly. The community here fears change and always will.
Sadly, the one thing they fear the most is exactly what they need.

*shrugs*
Author:  Robin [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:54 pm ]
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Matt wrote:
The only people accepted here are those that are TRULY here to LEARN with the source.


What, like your girlfriend?
Author:  genusis [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:03 pm ]
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Robin wrote:
Matt wrote:
The only people accepted here are those that are TRULY here to LEARN with the source.


What, like your girlfriend?


All The Proof i need.
Author:  Matt [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:08 pm ]
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Robin wrote:
Matt wrote:
The only people accepted here are those that are TRULY here to LEARN with the source.


What, like your girlfriend?


Matt wrote:
Those that don't come here to do anything with the source, get run off very quickly.


Case and point, fagboy. Thanks for proving my point exactly how I wanted it proven. ;)

Now, get over your gay fetish of having men insulting you and LEAVE already. DFA said you were one of the ones that wanted your account deleted. Buh-buy dipshit.
Author:  Dragoons Master [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:49 pm ]
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imo, MS should be improved to stay alive, or revive. MS was developed in an actually dead language. VB6 IS a dead language since MS does not update/upgrade it anymore. IMO, MS should be translated to other languages like C++/C#/VB.Net, or anything like that. And, IMO, DX8 is good. DX7 is way too limited and DX9(or +) is overkill.
IMO.
Author:  Matt [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:50 pm ]
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Dragoons Master wrote:
imo, MS should be improved to stay alive, or revive. MS was developed in an actually dead language. VB6 IS a dead language since MS does not update/upgrade it anymore. IMO, MS should be translated to other languages like C++/C#/VB.Net, or anything like that. And, IMO, DX8 is good. DX7 is way too limited and DX9(or +) is overkill.
IMO.


We don't want the source to die. I'm all for it being translated to other languages and even for a DX8 version. I just think the source should support both versions, that's all.

It's the community that needs to be dealt with.
Author:  Doomy [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:18 pm ]
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Dragoons Master wrote:
imo, MS should be improved to stay alive, or revive. MS was developed in an actually dead language. VB6 IS a dead language since MS does not update/upgrade it anymore. IMO, MS should be translated to other languages like C++/C#/VB.Net, or anything like that. And, IMO, DX8 is good. DX7 is way too limited and DX9(or +) is overkill.
IMO.

yay someone agrees with me
Author:  DarkPhoenix [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:27 pm ]
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What language do you guys want to translate it to? I can help with C# or VB.NET. Just let me know.
Author:  Doomy [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:28 pm ]
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DarkPhoenix wrote:
What language do you guys want to translate it to? I can help with C# or VB.NET. Just let me know.

i say vb.net but they would probally want C# or C++
Author:  Toast [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:31 pm ]
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If you port to .NET it won't be the same if you program it with .NET standards, it will be something totally new. But I totally agree it's what this community needs.
Author:  Devilen [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:15 pm ]
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I know I am not that big of a supporter here but I been using MS on my own and messing with it to make my own game. I say keep it going not many of decent programs like this out there. I am willing to help out where I can with VB6, VB.net, C/C++, C# any language I know I will help out how ever I can.
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